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Prince Henry to wed Rachel: He said to me that it's her screaming laughter that annoys him and her 'neurotic' personality that makes him not like her. There is nothing platonic in the purpose of a dating site. He wasn't ready to marry me either at I'm 5'3 and went out with a guy who was 6'6 and he didn't seem to have an issue with my height at all. I get the impression that your league is at least a 7.

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Most watched News videos Pedestrian bridge in Florida collapses, trapping cars underneath What went wrong? If you are making use it, good for you in all seriousness, not sarcastically. It's a 'mini Beast from the East'! However, the way that men and women calculate the desirability of the other is vastly different, which is telling even from our society. I was once in that earnings category taking a sabbatical to travel and enjoy life at the moment but I didn't care that much but at work I saw a lot of the people married with similarly high-earning people. Not to offend anyone else, please. And the yr old perfect 8 probably has commitment issues.

I'm not saying this is you but something to consider. I have some beautiful female cousins and friends and they have really big lists of what they want in a man.

And because of that they've remained single into their 30's. Anyway, I'm just curious. Feel free to respond or not. I'm not trying to be combative but understand why a beautiful girl is having trouble finding a good man. I love discussing these things so perhaps I can offer some insight or be a sounding board.

I am not the poster above. I totally agree with the poster above though. I can respond, as an attractive woman in mids. Personally, I have had trouble finding love because I started the game late. This is because I was focused on education in college, and I saw my good-looking friends ruined by superficial relationships with college players.

Back then, the good-looking guys were all looking for flings or they would date for constant sex from a I chose to work on my intellect and character, letting the ball drop in appearance.

I wasn't willing to date the 6s that approached me. Anything higher never looked my way at the time. Now, as I have grown up, I have learned to balance life better. I am spending a lot of time on myself to live up to my potential. Granted I am not bragging. I find that I have an easier time getting the men that I want to date. I am not yet ready for marriage, but I would like to date someone that considers it within yrs. The only problem is that I dated scale guys 1 yr older than me.

I am not into dating 10 males, because I find them full of themselves. Being a 6 in college, I saw the ugly side of extremely superficial 10 men. These men that are 1 yr older than me, mids are still 'finding themselves'.

With my little dating experience and their inability to marry soon, I am in a dead end relationship. Also, when I date around, I have a hard time deciphering what the men like me for.

When men start dating you with very sexual advances, it is difficult to find someone to marry long term. If you do, he has a tendency to push you to be his 'arm candy', which isn't appealing either.

I actually dated a really brilliant guy that was an 8, who wanted me to follow his career and lower my ambitions. He wasn't ready to marry me either at He was bitter that I didn't just follow him and see where it goes. He traded me in for a younger 7 that idolized him, kept tabs on me for the past 3 yrs. It takes men longer to settle down. That is a dilemma. I will probably go for the 8s in their early 30s.

I am embarrassed to say that I a just started reading this blog. Not very bright of me, I know. I need to end it and get serious. I have been intimidated by scale 7, yr old men wanting to date me seriously.

But I am not willing to wait on a man my age to grow up, waste my most eligible years on someone finding himself. I haven't been putting myself out there much yet.

Once you get a 10 your age, its difficult to go for a 7 that is 7 yrs your senior. Let me add to my previous post and say that I am not superficial. I guess that I have been working improving all areas of myself. And I feel underwhelmed by those that don't care to try.

I would like to date a guy that works on their appearance, otherwise I won't have motivation to maximize mine. Or works on their interests, so that we can be inspired together. No offense, but the hardships a woman has to deal with because she is pretty is NOTHING compared to the hardships a woman has to deal with because she is ugly. If you are pretty, and have a problem finding a man, the you know the problem isn't your appearance.

You know it is your personality so you can zoom in and fix it. As an ugly woman having problems finding a man, you don't know if the bigger problem is your looks, your personality, or both. Either way, you have twice as much crap to deal with to fix the problem. Try living a day as an ugly female then come back and talk to me. I'm just saying, be thankful for what you have, live, learn, grow, and always improve yourself both inside and outside. If you always do that, your chances improve that you will find love someday.

J, I agree that once a woman has nearly maxed out her looks that working on her personality, approachability and showing interest in decent guys not a-holes is the biggest thing she should do. But for pretty girls, working on personality and approachability and showing interest in good guys and knowing how and who to filter but don't filter out the good guys!

Are we rating looks alone for guys? In general I don't care about looks, I only care that he works out and is at least 5' You might find that you'd prefer a 7 in his 30's to an 8 in his 20s. I know I'd rate a 30yrold 6 in looks an 8 if he was super intelligent and very funny or was the life of the party and had a great career. I would take that guy over a guy was a 10 in looks alone.

How do you rate his looks? I am curious how women rate guys, I find that my friends rate on looks alone which is really confusing to me. At J, I really don't believe that a woman can be 'ugly' beyond reproach. I have barely ever met women that are below 5 and worked on themselves. To the contrary, now that I spend more time on my looks, I can see just how hard some women try to optimize their value.

All women know the make up that doesn't look like you are wearing any look. When men say that they like how a woman looks without make up and in their t-shirt, it is bogus. This is the same women that spends countless hours researching beauty products, styling her hair, etc. There are entire websites for hair, nails, skin, and body toning alone.

I have often seen guys call a women a 10 that is a 4 without all the extra amenities. It is confidence and motivation that differentiates the 4s from the 7s. Granted, you cannot be an without the genetics. But I guarantee that a 7 can do well with getting men to date.

Honestly, I think men have it harder in raising their looks. There just isn't much you can do to hide it all as a man. Fortunately, men can compensate for looks in other ways. And even then, the 7 can bring her body to the level of a 10 with determination. Well, maybe a ten is an over-exaggeration. But you can definitely get your body to at least a 6 with exercise and healthy eating.

And this is the age of plastic surgery and a million diet options. I think that people that think they have more problems than the 'pretty girl' haven't given themselves enough tough love. And not to equate any girl here to an actress or model, but clearly your statement doesn't hold water. Beauty is a burden, one that most everyone wants to have, but doesn't make it any less of one. This is true of everything else that is highly valued.

The more you have, the more you are unwilling to compromise your values. I am totally not speaking from a high horse. But I have seen miraculous improvements in appearance to know that being 'ugly' is not very likely for a woman. That is what Andrew is saying in his blog. If you are a , you can become a 7 just from superficial things. It's like when my date was waiting for me to get dressed for a formal and I came out in 4 minutes. He was like 'wowsa, you look like that and it took you less time then me'.

What he didn't realize is that I had spent the past 4 months in a high-intensity cardio class 3 times a week, treated my skin like a little baby, took the equivalent of make up classes, got a new wardrobe. Most of my friends with near perfect bodies count calories for everything that they put in their mouth.

You don't have to go this extreme to surpass the 'ugly' face and body though. At HanSolo,I totally agree with you. I think that is a factor for all girls though. Or maybe it is because I am relatively young with little experience. I have friends that work on their looks and those that don't. And I have friends from both groups that are in unsatisfying relationships. They always seem to choose the wrong guy. And I am really relieved when the a-hole dumps them, because I am an optimist.

And I believe that the next one will be better, only to find them dating the same wolf in a different cloak. For this reason, I really believe that you are responsible for your own romantic happiness.

Why is it that some decent girls are always in amazing relationships with men that treat them right? And why are some gorgeous girls perpetually single? And let's factor out the bitches and broken personalities for this.

The hardest thing for any women is knowing who to chose. Choice will either give you love or make you bitter. I don't believe that love finds us. We must actively seek it out. At aGirl, I am assuming that a fairly attractive women will not date men that are below average.

I take average to be a 5. Let's assume that I am using the appearance scale same as men use it, based solely on looks. And then I have never met a well-rounded 10 that wants to marry in 20s or early 30s.

I have met a lot of 10s with undesirable personalities. I think this is because male 10s don't work on it as much as women 10s. This is because women can become 10s from all the ways-we-have-to-hide-our ugliness. Sorry, don't know a better way to phrase it. So,an attractive women will date a man in the looks department of a 6 at minimum to a 9 at maximum. And I realize that this is being superficial. But the personality is separate from the looks.

A hot female will not date a average 5 man irregardless the additional qualities. She at least wants someone marginally above average. And I agree with you, on the selection.

Though I think that you are throwing around 30s as just a number. When I was 22 and approached by a 30 year old perfect 8, I was too intimidated to partner up with him. Here, I am barely got my legal drinking age and some guy wants me to settle down and follow him i. This might also stem from the fact that I hadn't gotten enough of an opportunity to date at the time.

So, it was like telling me to marry the first cereal box off the shelf. Now, I would date a 7 30 yr old over a 10 25 yr old. But a 6 is really pushing it. He will find my lifestyle and beauty regimen superficial anyways. But I cut the age limit at And unfortunately that age gap yr old males on scale are the most sought after. And I am not eliminating the personality and intelligence factor, that is a given for all women. A 26 yr old 8 will be hard to convince him to marry you now.

He will want to finish his career ladder and 'see where it goes'. That doesn't work for me, because if it doesn't work out, I will be screwed. And the 7 yr old perfect 30 yr old is hard to find. I'd take him now. And the yr old perfect 8 probably has commitment issues. Why else would he still be single at 35? To add at HanSolo, there are entire books written on who women should filter out. Actually, I am really interested on what Andrew thinks of this from a male's perspective.

Let's assume an attractive, vibrant personality female on a scale of Let'e eliminate that factor. Let's assume a decent one that has minor flaws and working on it. Let's assume a girl that is a decent flirt as well.

Seems like a lot of people call very attractive women shallow if they won't date average guys,but from what I've observed, there sometimes tends to be issues with insecurity on the part of the man if the woman he's dating is significantly more attractive than him. Whereas a man who is of similar attractiveness often seems more likely to appreciate it and able to handle it. But, sadly, your reality isn't the reality at all.

Not every girl can't work herself into a 7 range. I promise you, I count every calories, limit it to daily, spend tons of money on beauty care and wardrobe, nails, hair, heals, exercise at least 1 hour daily, etc etc and I'm still only a 5 tops.

And even that I think is pushing it. When you have a rotten foundation, there is only so much you can do to improve it. As a woman, if I could only choose one quality to have, it would be beauty, because with beauty you can control the world. Beautiful women are burdened with their beauty like trust fund babies are burdened with their money. If only we all could have such problems. At Anonymous at 1: I wouldn't date someone under 6 in looks , but most of my friends say I'm not so picky: I'm 22 now, I'm curious As far as getting more dating experience instead of settling down.

I'm worried that if I choose someone now, I'll always wonder if I could have found someone much better. Or that I gave something up, whether it be time with friends or something else. I worry that the more men I date, the pickier I'll become. Which is a good thing because I'll know what kind of man I should marry. I've dated really great guys this past year.

I didn't want to commit to anyone for the same reason you stated. When I compare them to my recent ex I wonder why I ever considered marrying him. I think you are aiming at just the right age range. I heard somewhere that 34 is marriage o'clock for men. I wonder if that has something to do with their sperm.

I read that the quality of their sperm changes after 35, it becomes abnormal. What do you mean by the sperm becomes abnormal? Do you mean a slight change?

A big percentage change in going from 0. Here's one study https: My dad was 41 when I was conceived and I am 6' tall, have a high IQ, am athletic and pretty good looking. Maybe if he was over 50 you could start to worry but even then the odds are low.

You have a lot of guys after you now so you can be picky for a little while but don't think that will last forever. See this link for several different graphs, including showing the odds of a healthy child I think the probability of the child being healthy has a much greater dependence on the age of the mother than of the fater: USvDD6X9du4 So, for a woman that wants 3 kids, and wants them 2 years apart but it turns out she can get 1 two years apart and the 3rd one 3 years apart and wants the last one by 35 then she would have her first kid at Say she wants 3 years marriage before 1st child then that means marriage at You can put in your own numbers but let's say that 27 works for you as the latest age you want to get married at and maybe 25 is your ideal age then I think you should basically be picky during the next year and only marry a guy that is just awesome you'll likely not find anyone better.

Next year, 23, still be picky but less so, and then by 24 just be appropriately picky not too much, not too little. Remember that you will likely want or need years of dating the man you end up marrying or cohabiting or whatever before you do get married so add that into your calculation. You probably won't decline much in looks over the next years or even more if you have a much-younger than your age look.

Anyway, my point is that you're likely at your peak right now and during the next years so best to find someone to marry soon. I knew someone who was very pretty in her early 20's and had tons of great guys after her but for whatever reason she didn't marry anyone and in her late 20's her looks started to go down a bit and now in her early 30's even more she's still attractive but whereas she was an 8. I'm not saying she's typical of how looks change but probably more typical than the 8.

I suspect that a typical 8. I mean the last guy I dated was 39, I'm pretty open. I doubt I'll get to 30 without children, but it's good to have the information anyway. Skinny actually, I'm working on gaining some weight to make my hips wider.

Tricky thing to do while still maintaining a small waist. I agree with you. If I find the right guy I won't hesitate to say "i do. Sometimes a girl aGirl? It's not exactly uncommon for beautiful women to be single. Being beautiful is not synonymous with finding true love, or being in a relationship. I took several months off from dating for my career. And now I'm getting back into dating, and well, I never like anyone, for one.

I've met and dated great men, and less than desirable men. I can't help but value a man who is successful. I've been surrounded by very successful men for a long time, so it's hard to settle for someone less than that, but I also don't want to have to give up my ambitions to be in a relationship with a man who is probably used to getting what he wants all the time.

When I think of a man on the rate of a scale of , I think it's ridiculous. Women just don't rate men in the same way. Men rate women based on looks and added points or detracted points for her personality.

This is what's important to them, so an understandable point scale for them to consider. I, on the other hand, rate a man based on their whole package, looks, fitness, personality, humor, and financial success. It's hard to measure financial success If you meet a multi-millionaire who is a 9, and you meet a middle class man who is a 9, are they even in the same ball park of comparability?

So how do you rate men based on a scale of for a woman when financial status is such an important factor? I've dated men who had everything a woman would want. They were great on paper. But I still felt nothing for them. And that was the shocking reality. But I don't look at men as objects in this way, rating them on their financial status so heavily.

To me a human connection is the most important thing, but to ignore how important a man's financial status is, especially to the most attractive women out there, is, well, erroneous. I read an article that Andrew posted: A Guide To Strong Boundaries. I think therein lies some of my problems.

J, I don't pertain to know what it's like to be ugly I don't know if that is your fate, and if it is, I am sorry, but ugly is an extreme adjective. I think being pretty has its own set of disadvantages at times. I think that my friends who are unattractive have an easier time settling down, and finding someone they will commit to.

For me, being single is not a hard life. The options with men seem endless, and in and of itself, that is hard.

To settle down and commit to one person, to let go of all options, to find a person who that's worth it for, is challenging when there is an endless supply of amazing constantly around you. Sorry, I know this sounds lame, but maybe it all boils down to some inner problem, and it's that much easier to figure out, although I beg to differ. Amanda, yes, the "formula" for how desirable a woman finds a man is more complicated than vice versa.

What is known as SMV sexual market value is more complicated involving charisma, confidence, looks, money, etc. But I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you on this. As to your situation, well, it sounds like you're "suffering" from the paradox of choices where too many good options plus the fear of something even better coming along make you want to wait. Not necessarily bad if you're It really comes down to deciding what you want and when.

I'm assuming you're early to mid 20's so basically you're at the height of your ability to attract men and women in their 20's who have lots of things to improve are a different story.

As I told aGirl it really comes down to deciding what you want and shopping around for that for a while but not waiting so long that your attractiveness starts to fall.

Few people can have everything they want. It sounds like feeling that connection is vital and that you want to respect a man's career and financial power. Let's say you have 5 main areas on your list, then I think it would be really valuable to find which one or two of those you could emphasize less so that the odds of finding such a man is higher.

It sounds like the guy's looks isn't the most important thing to you so that may be one area to go down 0. Just throwing out an example. For me I was too picky in the past and wanted a beautiful, brilliant, very kind, sexy, and fun girl, and that likes sports and Lord of the Rings. Well, I was finding girls that were interested in me that had many of those things but never all of them. For me, one area that I have decided can be sacrificed somewhat is intelligence, meaning she doesn't have to be super smart.

Somewhat smart and intellectually curious so we can have good conversations is good enough. To the previous poster, the problem of financially successful men being boring is an interesting point. I can relate to a lot of what you said. It seems that you are valuing financial success based on gross income. First off, I am the previous Anon writer.

I have to figure out how to use a name moving forward. You click with who you click, so no point to mention it. As far as financial success, I can speak from experience on that one. Personally, I do not find solely financially wealthy men attractive in the least bit. Let me describe this further. I do not find an attractive old money millionaire as a great dating option. I can't relate to someone like that and have hardly ever found them to be of admirable character.

Now, I do find ambitious men attractive. With ambition often comes financial success If your idea of marriage material is the latter. I don't think any of this advice applies. Then again, pretty sure you don't need advice on that one. They go for youth and looks alone. Or possibly someone with old money too. As for the giving up your ambitions for a guy, I can chime in there. I had the same sentiment, which broke my relationship in the past. I was young, with little experience and not ready for marriage.

I don't know what age you are at now. But being older and more established now, I would be willing to step down for a man that is 'used to getting what he wants'. I don't see this as a negative thing, as I am like that myself. And one person eventually has to compromise a little more to make it work.

It is a little of a disconnect, not saying this negatively. I have had this problem in thinking myself. Not to say that you have to agree with my conclusion. You are searching for a highly ambitious man that must have the personal qualities to push to get what he wants. And then when he acts as per his personality, you berate it.

Speaking from the perspective of an attractive female, I can say the same of the options you speak of. I personally never made too much us of all these options, tend to take relationships more seriously than necessary probably. I don't find the single life appealing, so I don't feel like I am losing much. If you are making use it, good for you in all seriousness, not sarcastically. Though even for a beautiful women, it will end sooner or later.

And I take the fact that you are on here to mean that it is not fulfilling As for J, I have more to say later. I don't think the answer is so simple. Being unattractive doesn't have to mean just settle for whatever comes your way, unless you want it to.

Just like spending money on beauty and counting calories doesn't mean you are optimizing your looks. To gauge if you are doing things right, you must look at your results from month-to-month. Not to say that you must go from 4 to 7 to commend your efforts. But if you are counting calories, like really counting, and the scale is not dropping This is for pretty or ugly women, doesn't matter.

My skin broke out for 2 years. I blamed genetics and hormones. I bought foundation to cover it up and expensive products to deal with it. I only recently got the issue. You have to deal with the source. I have been on a gluten free diet for 5 months now.

I have been religiously sticking to my skin regimen, period. I am using mostly drugstore products, some high end. Amanda original commenter "Because of my level of attractiveness, I am constantly pursued by men who value looks in excess.

Ugly girls, suffer much more than you. The simple fact - and I have said this before - is that men pick women they like personally from among the women they are physically attracted to, not the other way around. As for the ugly features part, I doubt they are all ugly. And really you can counterbalance a hot body with not so attractive facial features.

Make your hair flawless with style and money and effort. Go fake on some things. Girls these days have fake lashes, fake extensions, fake perfect teeth, fake nails. They are so real nowadays that you can't tell the difference. And more so, though highly controversial, get plastic surgery for what is unfixable. You seem to be throwing money into products anyway, so I assume you have it. If that is too extreme for you, then stop where you are comfortable.

Work with what you have. Build your confidence and stop believing what you have written here. After all, there are women here writing that they are nearly super models.

Do you think this is true for all of them? Not to offend anyone else, please. Fake it until you make it. Speak the truth to get advice at present. But there is no happiness from living in that mindset, if you are.

Seek positive role models. I believe that dreams can only come true to those that believe To HanSolo, I always found that really funny that one criteria is likes sports. Or likes Lord of the Rings?

Why is this a necessary thing? Honestly, I was friends with a guy that told me this 'sports' criteria. And I told him how ridiculous it all was to me. Isn't it enough for a woman to be open to liking what you like?

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I get the impression that your league is at least a 7. Poisoned spy Litvinenko's widow

probability of dating a supermodel

If you meet a multi-millionaire who is a 9, and you meet a middle class man who is a 9, are they even in the same ball park of comparability? I will, however, date someone who "ties". For me I was too picky in the past and wanted a beautiful, brilliant, very kind, sexy, and fun girl, and that likes sports and Lord of the Rings.

probability of dating a supermodel

You have a lot of guys after you now so you can be picky for a little while but don't think probability of dating a supermodel will last forever. I have a history of dating abusive assholes. At HanSolo,I totally agree with you. Single mother, 24, who lost her online dating not effective son to cot death reveals how she trawled the internet for a sperm donor What I do notice is the fact that some men overrate their personality.